The Meadows Pa Race 2

1609M

Prize Money: $9,801

BIGLY (3) drew wide last start and was never a genuine threat, beaten 23 metres into fifth at this track over 1609m. This doesn't look as hard so from a favourable draw he is in the right race to score. CHEZACTIC (6) finished fourth last start, beaten 8 metres at this track over 1609m. Expecting a very good run. FORGET IT IM CRAZY (1) is better than his last-start seventh over 1609m at this track. ITDONTMATTERTOME (7) is better than her last-start eighth over 1609m at this track.

Distance: 1609m
Track: Good
Weather: -
Surface: All Weather
Class: NW1750L4

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Forget It Im Crazy (Fr1) 4846818857
Trainer: Norm Parker ()
Driver: Ronnie Wrenn (Jnr)
Prize Money: $151,786
Win / Place: 10% / 32%

9 yo Bay Horse

Sire: DONTYOUFORGETIT (USA)

Dam: PRETTY CRAZY

Rating

Stats

Career

100: 10-10-12

Distance

100: 10-10-12

Trk/Dst

32: 3-3-5

Track

32: 3-3-5

Season

31: 3-2-5

1st Up

3: 1-0-0

2nd Up

3: 0-1-1

3rd Up

3: 1-0-0

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

100: 10-10-12

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

100: 10-10-12

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:55.10

Driver Stats

Comments

Recent form below what he is capable of. Last start 7th (Fr9) over 1609m at this track, beaten 40 m by Mystical Peter (1:56.30) in GLADA on November 26 at $85.60. The run prior 5th (Fr3) over 1609m at this track beaten 15 m by Jogging Full Trot (1:54.30) in NW3500L4 on November 20 at $116.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
7th of 9	26/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr9	Norm Parker	1:56.30	1:56.30	39.8m	$86	6	GLADA	$15,267	-	1. Mystical Peter 2. Floyd Of Rosedale 3. Fanatic
5th of 8	20/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Jeremy Indof	1:54.30	1:54.30	15.0m	$116	7	NW3500L4	$11,756	$588	1. Jogging Full Trot 2. Windsong Patriot 3. Hl Revadon
8th of 9	13/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Jeremy Indof	1:55.30	1:55.30	17.3m	$18	6	NW3500L4	$11,756	-	1. Father Time 2. Mr Jeff 3. Floyd Of Rosedale
8th of 9	7/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Kyle Bolon	1:56.00	1:56.00	18.8m	$52	7	NW5900L4	$13,740	-	1. Activation 2. Enzio 3. Floyd Of Rosedale
1st of 9	31/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Jeremy Indof	1:57.20	1:57.20	4.5m	$8.50	14	NW1750L4	$9,741	$4,871	1. Forget It Im Crazy 2. Heist 3. Izzy's Moneyburg
8th of 9	17/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	Jeremy Indof	1:56.30	1:56.30	23.3m	$32	8	NW1500L4	$9,893	-	1. Wholelotatrot 2. Phannys Matter 3. Freddimo

Izzy's Moneyburg (Fr2) 7787773467
Trainer: Ed Mc Neight (Jnr) ()
Driver: Robert McNeight
Prize Money: $106,260
Win / Place: 4.21% / 22%

6 yo Chestnut Gelding

Sire: VICTORY SAM

Dam: WYNOT ASHLEY

Rating

Stats

Career

95: 4-9-8

Distance

95: 4-9-8

Trk/Dst

95: 4-9-8

Track

95: 4-9-8

Season

36: 0-2-3

1st Up

1: 0-0-0

2nd Up

1: 0-0-0

3rd Up

1: 0-0-0

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

95: 4-9-8

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

95: 4-9-8

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:56.20

Driver Stats

Comments

Didn't do much last start, 7th (Fr5) over 1609m at this track beaten 30 m by Hl Revadon (1:55.40) in NW1750L4 on November 28 at $53.30. Before that 6th (Fr1) over 1609m at this track, beaten 24 m by Heytherwillie (1:55.20) in NW1750L4 on November 14 at $99.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
7th of 8	28/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Robert McNeight	1:55.40	1:55.40	31.5m	$53	14	NW1750L4	$9,771	-	1. Hl Revadon 2. Beach Dreamzzz 3. I Cant Refuse
6th of 9	14/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr1	Robert McNeight	1:55.20	1:55.20	24.0m	$99	7	NW1750L4	$9,771	-	1. Heytherwillie 2. Passionate Promise 3. Itdontmattertome
4th of 6	7/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Robert McNeight	1:56.30	1:56.30	49.5m	$36	7	NW1750L4	$9,771	$782	1. Resolute Bay 2. Mind Yown Business 3. I Cant Refuse
3rd of 9	31/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Robert McNeight	1:57.20	1:57.20	5.3m	$59	7	NW1750L4	$9,741	$1,169	1. Forget It Im Crazy 2. Heist 3. Izzy's Moneyburg
7th of 8	24/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Robert McNeight	1:56.10	1:56.10	22.5m	$92	7	NW1850L4	$9,741	-	1. Freddimo 2. The Funk 3. Kosher Mahoney
7th of 9	17/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Brian Zendt	1:56.30	1:56.30	17.3m	$122	7	NW1500L4	$9,893	-	1. Wholelotatrot 2. Phannys Matter 3. Freddimo

Bigly (Fr3) 6168715645
Trainer: Aaron Johnston ()
Driver: Shawn Johnston
Prize Money: $191,987
Win / Place: 12% / 44%

6 yo Brown Gelding

Sire: CANTAB HALL (USA)

Dam: MISS FIDGET

100

Rating

Stats

Career

88: 11-8-20

Distance

88: 11-8-20

Trk/Dst

69: 9-7-12

Track

69: 9-7-12

Season

33: 3-3-4

1st Up

3: 1-0-1

2nd Up

3: 0-1-2

3rd Up

3: 1-0-1

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

88: 11-8-20

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

88: 11-8-20

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:54.10

Driver Stats

Comments

Last start 5th (Fr7) over 1609m at this track, beaten 23 m by Winter Soldier (1:54.10) in NW5500L4 on December 5 at $85.70. Before that, 4th (Fr6) over 1609m at this track, beaten 6 m by Smoking Jet (1:56.00) in NW5500L4 on November 28 at $92.20.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
5th of 9	5/12/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr7	Shawn Johnston	1:54.10	1:54.10	23.3m	$86	7	NW5500L4	$13,783	$689	1. Winter Soldier 2. My Bar Tab 3. Killer Instinct
4th of 9	28/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Shawn Johnston	1:56.00	1:56.00	6.8m	$92	7	NW5500L4	$13,740	$1,099	1. Smoking Jet 2. L Dees Maria 3. Bjornsson
6th of 8	21/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Shawn Johnston	1:53.40	1:53.40	20.3m	$55	7	NW5900L4	$13,740	-	1. Dream Something 2. Killer Instinct 3. Splendid
5th of 9	14/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr7	Shawn Johnston	1:54.40	1:54.40	14.3m	$41	8	NW5700L4	$13,740	$687	1. First Option 2. Keystone Chaos 3. Dream Something
1st of 8	6/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	Shawn Johnston	1:55.20	1:55.20	0.6m	$121	7	NW3500L4	$11,756	$5,878	1. Bigly 2. Mystical Peter 3. Father Time
7th of 8	30/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Aaron Johnston	1:56.20	1:56.20	17.3m	$33	14	NW3500L4	$11,720	-	1. Redwhite N Goo 2. Highly Acclaimed 3. First Option

Game On Girls (Fr4) 4765643756
Trainer: Kelly Paver ()
Driver: Brady Jenson
Prize Money: $231,477
Win / Place: 13% / 38%

7 yo Bay Mare

Sire: DONTYOUFORGETIT (USA)

Dam: BELLE LEGRAND

Rating

Stats

Career

135: 18-17-17

Distance

135: 18-17-17

Trk/Dst

109: 16-16-14

Track

109: 16-16-14

Season

40: 1-5-6

1st Up

1: 0-0-1

2nd Up

1: 0-0-0

3rd Up

1: 0-0-0

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

135: 18-17-17

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

135: 18-17-17

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:55.40

Driver Stats

Comments

Last start 6th (Fr3) over 1609m at this track, beaten 12 m by Threepointbluechip (1:57.10) in NW1750L4 on December 5 at $53.10. Before that, 5th (Fr4) over 1609m at this track beaten 9 m by Junior Univerrse (1:56.00) in NW1750L4 on November 21 at $67.80.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
6th of 8	5/12/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Brady Jenson	1:57.10	1:57.10	12.8m	$53	14	NW1750L4	$9,801	-	1. Threepointbluechip 2. Joey 3. Wibs Warrior
5th of 9	21/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Jim Pantaleano	1:56.00	1:56.00	9.0m	$68	7	NW1750L4	$9,771	$489	1. Junior Univerrse 2. Mind Yown Business 3. Passionate Promise
7th of 9	14/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Jim Pantaleano	1:55.20	1:55.20	42.8m	$17	7	NW1750L4	$9,771	-	1. Heytherwillie 2. Passionate Promise 3. Itdontmattertome
3rd of 6	7/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Jim Pantaleano	1:56.00	1:56.00	9.0m	$10	7	NW1750L4	$9,771	$1,173	1. Mr Jeff 2. Kaboomski 3. Game On Girls
4th of 9	31/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Jim Pantaleano	1:57.20	1:57.20	6.0m	$17	7	NW1750L4	$9,741	$779	1. Forget It Im Crazy 2. Heist 3. Izzy's Moneyburg
6th of 8	24/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr1	Brady Jenson	1:56.10	1:56.10	18.8m	$13	7	NW1850L4	$9,741	-	1. Freddimo 2. The Funk 3. Kosher Mahoney

Merchantman (Fr5) 60898x8736
Trainer: Todd Rooney ()
Driver: Brian Zendt
Prize Money: $32,448
Win / Place: 8.33% / 33%

5 yo BLU/Roan Gelding

Sire: FATHER PATRICK (USA)

Dam: MAJESTIC STYLE

Rating

Stats

Career

24: 2-3-3

Distance

24: 2-3-3

Trk/Dst

12: 2-2-3

Track

12: 2-2-3

Season

4: 0-0-1

1st Up

3: 0-0-0

2nd Up

3: 0-1-0

3rd Up

3: 0-0-2

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

24: 2-3-3

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

24: 2-3-3

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:57.10

Driver Stats

Comments

Last start 6th (Fr8) over 1609m at this track beaten 21 m by Margie's Chapter (1:56.10) in NW3EXTPM on November 20 at $214.20. Two runs back 3rd (Fr2) over 1609m at this track, beaten 8 m by Margie's Chapter (1:56.20) in NW3EXTPM on November 13 at $95.40.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
6th of 9	20/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	Brady Brown	1:56.10	1:56.10	21.0m	$214	7	NW3EXTPM	$17,099	-	1. Margie's Chapter 2. Thunderstorm Blues 3. Henley
3rd of 9	13/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Brady Brown	1:56.20	1:56.20	8.3m	$95	7	NW3EXTPM	$17,099	$2,052	1. Margie's Chapter 2. Thunderstorm Blues 3. Merchantman
7th of 8	6/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Justin Walters	1:56.40	1:56.40	24.8m	$52	7	CGNW2EXTPM	$15,267	-	1. Margie's Chapter 2. Wistful Blue Chip 3. One More Light
8th of 9	30/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	Mike Wilder	1:55.00	1:55.00	53.3m	$84	537	NW3EXTPM	$17,047	-	1. Mr Pasadena 2. Chasin' Sunshine 3. Uncle Ruckas
537 Day Spell
2nd of 4	14/10/25	The Meadows	1609m			-	Brian Zendt	2:01.10	2:01.10	11.25m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Flightline 2. Merchantman 3. Tsm Prince Tristan
8th of 9	11/5/24	Northfield Park	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Aaron Merriman	2:00.10	2:00.10	18.8m	$4.30	27	NW2PMCD	$14,679	-	1. Purplepeopleater 2. Molly's Star 3. G's Independence

Chezactic (Fr6) 6562158764
Trainer: Scott Betts ()
Driver: Dave Palone
Prize Money: $194,797
Win / Place: 12% / 39%

5 yo Bay Horse

Sire: TACTICAL LANDING (USA)

Dam: CHEZATTER

100

Rating

Stats

Career

74: 9-9-11

Distance

74: 9-9-11

Trk/Dst

25: 4-1-2

Track

25: 4-1-2

Season

22: 2-1-1

1st Up

3: 1-0-0

2nd Up

2: 0-0-0

3rd Up

2: 0-0-1

Metro

7: 0-1-0

Non-Metro

67: 9-8-11

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

74: 9-9-11

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:54.00

Driver Stats

Comments

Last start 4th (Fr4) over 1609m at this track, beaten 8 m by Threepointbluechip (1:57.10) in NW1750L4 on December 5 at $2.50. Before that, 6th (Fr4) over 1609m at this track, beaten 30 m by Mystical Peter (1:56.30) in GLADA on November 26 at $7.60.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
4th of 8	5/12/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Dave Palone	1:57.10	1:57.10	8.3m	$2.50f	9	NW1750L4	$9,801	$784	1. Threepointbluechip 2. Joey 3. Wibs Warrior
6th of 9	26/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Scott Betts	1:56.30	1:56.30	30.0m	$7.60	12	GLADA	$15,267	-	1. Mystical Peter 2. Floyd Of Rosedale 3. Fanatic
7th of 9	14/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr9	Case Bateson	1:55.20	1:55.20	22.5m	$63	21	NW5700L4	$13,740	-	1. Just Like Magic 2. Killer Instinct 3. Green Magic
8th of 9	24/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Case Bateson	1:56.10	1:56.10	24.8m	$94	14	NW5500L4	$13,699	-	1. Good Feeln To Know 2. L Dees Maria 3. Keystone Apache
5th of 9	10/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Aaron Merriman	1:53.20	1:53.20	13.5m	$8.00	8	NW5500L4	$12,938	$647	1. Buck Nome 2. Killer Instinct 3. Daylights Daughter
1st of 8	2/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Aaron Merriman	1:54.20	1:54.20	0.6m	$2.60f	21	NW1750L4	$9,786	$4,893	1. Chezactic 2. Jogging Full Trot 3. Swan Legacy

Itdontmattertome (Fr7) 7766946378
Trainer: Sarah Andrews ()
Driver: Aaron Merriman
Prize Money: $88,259
Win / Place: 24% / 36%

4 yo Bay Filly

Sire: ROYALTY FOR LIFE (USA)

Dam: LITERALLY

Rating

Stats

Career

41: 10-3-2

Distance

41: 10-3-2

Trk/Dst

6: 0-0-1

Track

6: 0-0-1

Season

18: 1-2-2

1st Up

2: 0-1-0

2nd Up

2: 0-0-0

3rd Up

2: 1-0-0

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

41: 10-3-2

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

41: 10-3-2

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:56.10

Driver Stats

Comments

Last start 8th (Fr6) over 1609m at this track, beaten 35 m by Threepointbluechip (1:57.10) in NW1750L4 on December 5 at $8.20. At the run before 7th (Fr9) over 1609m at this track, beaten 18 m by Junior Univerrse (1:56.00) in NW1750L4 on November 21 at $39. Capable of more than she has shown recently.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
8th of 8	5/12/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Aaron Merriman	1:57.10	1:57.10	36.0m	$8.20	14	NW1750L4	$9,801	-	1. Threepointbluechip 2. Joey 3. Wibs Warrior
7th of 9	21/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr9	Justin Irvine	1:56.00	1:56.00	18.0m	$39	7	NW1750L4	$9,771	-	1. Junior Univerrse 2. Mind Yown Business 3. Passionate Promise
3rd of 9	14/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	Aaron Merriman	1:55.20	1:55.20	11.3m	$22	7	NW1750L4	$9,771	$1,173	1. Heytherwillie 2. Passionate Promise 3. Itdontmattertome
6th of 6	7/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Jim Pantaleano	1:56.30	1:56.30	90.0m	$3.40	7	NW1750L4	$9,771	-	1. Resolute Bay 2. Mind Yown Business 3. I Cant Refuse
4th of 9	31/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr9	Jim Pantaleano	1:57.10	1:57.10	7.5m	$118	8	NW1750L4	$9,741	$779	1. Enzio 2. Father Time 3. The Funk
9th of 9	23/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Aaron Merriman	1:55.40	1:55.40	39.8m	$22	35	NW3500L4	$11,720	-	1. Just Like Magic 2. Green Magic 3. Enzio
35 Day Freshen-Up

Phannys Matter (Fr8) 56x9234468
Trainer: Jason Shaw ()
Driver: Justin Walters
Prize Money: $210,265
Win / Place: 9.40% / 35%

6 yo Bay Mare

Sire: EXPLOSIVE MATTER (USA)

Dam: PHANNY'S PHOTO

100

Rating

Stats

Career

117: 11-12-18

Distance

117: 11-12-18

Trk/Dst

68: 9-9-13

Track

68: 9-9-13

Season

28: 4-3-3

1st Up

4: 1-0-0

2nd Up

4: 0-1-0

3rd Up

4: 0-0-3

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

117: 11-12-18

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

117: 11-12-18

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:55.20

Driver Stats

Comments

Didn't do much last start, 8th (Fr2) over 1609m at this track, beaten 20 m by Junior Univerrse (1:56.00) in NW1750L4 on November 21 at $16.20. Before that 6th (Fr4) over 1609m at this track beaten 7 m by Father Time (1:55.30) in NW3500L4 on November 13 at $6.30.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
8th of 9	21/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Justin Walters	1:56.00	1:56.00	20.3m	$16	8	NW1750L4	$9,771	-	1. Junior Univerrse 2. Mind Yown Business 3. Passionate Promise
6th of 9	13/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Justin Walters	1:55.30	1:55.30	7.5m	$6.30	7	NW3500L4	$11,756	-	1. Father Time 2. Mr Jeff 3. Floyd Of Rosedale
4th of 8	6/11/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Brady Brown	1:55.20	1:55.20	3.0m	$95	7	NW3500L4	$11,756	$940	1. Bigly 2. Mystical Peter 3. Father Time
4th of 8	30/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Mike Wilder	1:56.20	1:56.20	8.3m	$38	6	NW3500L4	$11,720	$938	1. Redwhite N Goo 2. Highly Acclaimed 3. First Option
3rd of 8	24/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Dave Palone	1:56.00	1:56.00	3.0m	$2.70f	7	NW1850L4	$9,741	$1,169	1. Highly Acclaimed 2. Yo Tater 3. Phannys Matter
2nd of 9	17/10/25	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Dave Palone	1:56.30	1:56.30	7.5m	$2.20f	14	NW1500L4	$9,893	$2,473	1. Wholelotatrot 2. Phannys Matter 3. Freddimo

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Brk: Broke, Blkd: Blocked or held up, 1 x 1: One-out, one-back, Prkd: Parked, 3bk otr: 3 back on the outer, 3bk inr: Same as above, but on the inside, trld: Trailed, Gt spd: Showed gate speed, 3wd: 3-wide postd: Caught wide without cover, Held up: Held up, no gaps or few gaps: If they don't see any clear air in the straight, Inr-mid-wd -position: On the inside, mid = 1-off, wd = 3-wide or wider, flew hm wd: Flew home wide, dashd inr: Sprinted well on the inside, Chkd: Checked, Slow: Slow away at the start, Wltd: Wilted or got tired, Fdd: Faded late, Urgd: If the driver's getting stuck in

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