Kasamatsu Race 1

1400

Prize Money: $7,925

YELLOW GARDEN (4) missed the frame last start when she was always well out of her ground over 800m at this track, finishing seventh. Well placed and gets her chance. BELLAGIO NO YUME (8) is an eight-start maiden who finished fifth at her most recent appearance over 1400m at this track. This looks a nice race so expect her to be right in the finish. YOZAKURA BLUES (7) gave away a big start at the top of the straight last start and finished seventh over 1400m at this track. Looks to be in the right race to play a big role. CASTAGNACCIO (5) was unplaced last start over 800m at this track when eighth. No surprise to see him in contention.
  • Distance: 1400m
  • Track: Good
  • Weather: -
  • Surface: Dirt
  • Class: COND
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1Masaharu Fujita
  • Inca (1) 7896776548
  • Trainer: Masaharu Fujita()
  • Jockey: Kyouka Fukazawa
  • Weight: 53kg
  • Prize Money: $1,914
  • Win / Place: 0% / 0%

3 yo Bay Filly

Sire: INCANTATION (JPN)

Dam: PUTY (JPN)

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Rating

Stats
Career
12: 0-0-0
Distance
10: 0-0-0
Trk/Dst
10: 0-0-0
Track
11: 0-0-0
Season
2: 0-0-0
1st Up
1: 0-0-0
2nd Up
1: 0-0-0
3rd Up
1: 0-0-0
4th Up
1: 0-0-0
Non-Metro
12: 0-0-0
Dirt
12: 0-0-0
Firm
9: 0-0-0
Clockwise
12: 0-0-0
Jockey Stats
Horse
4: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

800m - 1400m

Comments
At the latest run 8th of 10 at this track on January 23 over 1400m, 12 len behind Yamajun Young with 55kg at $35.50. The start before that 4th of 8 at this track on January 9 over 800m, 4 len behind Usagichan carrying 53kg at $33.30. Others preferred at this stage.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
8th of 1023/1/26Kasamatsu1400mCOND 32Hosokawa Satoshi55kgGood1:35.0053.1 km/h12.6L5-7$3614$7,736-

1. Yamajun Young

2. Dan Stone Cheers

3. Go Go Summer

4th of 89/1/26Kasamatsu800mCOND 32Kyoka Fukazawa53kgFast0:51.1056.4 km/h4.0L2-4$3311$7,736$640

1. Usagichan

2. Bukittinggi

3. Maple Glory

5th of 729/12/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 27Kyoka Fukazawa53kgGood1:33.9053.7 km/h6.0L4-2$15613$10,584-

1. Okano Storm

2. Yellow Garden

3. Morning Ajisai

6th of 716/12/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 27Kyoka Fukazawa53kgGood1:34.2053.5 km/h6.8L3-4$3718$10,584-

1. Shiawasecappuccino

2. Takara Presto

3. Morning Ajisai

7th of 1028/11/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 28Kyoka Fukazawa53kgFast1:31.2055.3 km/h39.3L9-4$1679$10,714-

1. Ken Bridge Los

2. Vermeil Doll

3. Sempreverde

7th of 819/11/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 26Keigo Ohata55kgFast1:32.5054.5 km/h9.1L5-7$37515$10,714-

1. A Shin Diva

2. Rose Impulse

3. Yellow Garden

2Masaharu Fujita
  • Hitori Celeb (2) 7x9
  • Trainer: Masaharu Fujita()
  • Jockey: Junki Mochizuki
  • Weight: 55kg
  • Prize Money: $0
  • Win / Place: 0% / 0%

3 yo Bay Filly

Sire: ADMIRABLE (JPN)

Dam: ANTIQUEEN (JPN)

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Rating

Stats
Career
2: 0-0-0
Distance
1: 0-0-0
Trk/Dst
1: 0-0-0
Track
2: 0-0-0
Season
1: 0-0-0
1st Up
2: 0-0-0
Non-Metro
2: 0-0-0
Dirt
2: 0-0-0
Clockwise
2: 0-0-0
Jockey Stats
Horse
1: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

1400m

Comments
Third race start. First start second last of 8 at this track on June 11 over 800m, 11 len behind Combat Cap carrying 55kg at $84.90. Went for a spell before returning second last of 10 at this track on January 23 over 1400m, 16 len behind Yamajun Young carrying 55kg at $48.50. Unlikely to threaten.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
9th of 1023/1/26Kasamatsu1400mCOND 31Junki Mochizuki55kgGood1:35.0053.1 km/h16.6L7-10$49226$7,736-

1. Yamajun Young

2. Dan Stone Cheers

3. Go Go Summer

226 Day Spell
7th of 811/6/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 25Shin Higashikawa55kgR0:51.4056.0 km/h11.8L5-5$85-$48,601-

1. Combat Cap

2. Maple Glory

3. Michael

3Hiroshi Sasano
  • Tenkuno Yamajiro (3) 8x537447
  • Trainer: Hiroshi Sasano()
  • Jockey: Seidai Myoujou
  • Weight: 57kg
  • Prize Money: $3,252
  • Win / Place: 0% / 14%

3 yo Bay Colt

Sire: VINCENNES (JPN)

Dam: SAKINO SUISEI (JPN)

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Rating

Stats
Career
7: 0-0-1
Distance
2: 0-0-0
Trk/Dst
2: 0-0-0
Track
7: 0-0-1
Season
1: 0-0-0
1st Up
2: 0-0-0
2nd Up
1: 0-0-1
3rd Up
1: 0-0-0
4th Up
1: 0-0-0
Non-Metro
7: 0-0-1
Dirt
7: 0-0-1
Firm
4: 0-0-1
Clockwise
7: 0-0-1
Jockey Stats
Horse
2: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

800m - 1400m

Comments
At the latest run second last of 8 at this track on January 9 over 800m, 11 len behind Usagichan carrying 57kg at $6.10. The race before that 4th of 8 at this track on December 29 over 1400m, 13 len behind Dorompa with 56kg at $57.80. Has to find a few lengths.

Expected Settling Position: Off Pace

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
7th of 89/1/26Kasamatsu800mCOND 31Myojo Haru Dai57kgFast0:51.1056.4 km/h11.3L6-7$6.1011$7,736-

1. Usagichan

2. Bukittinggi

3. Maple Glory

4th of 829/12/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 24Myojo Haru Dai56kgGood1:33.7053.8 km/h13.5L7-6$5813$10,584$882

1. Dorompa

2. Milliondollar Babe

3. Yozakura Blues

4th of 616/12/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 22Ken Takagi56kgGood0:50.2057.4 km/h9.0L4-4$7.4018$10,584$882

1. Tsumamigui

2. Castagnaccio

3. Bukittinggi

7th of 928/11/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 24Ken Takagi56kgFast1:32.1054.7 km/h17.5L5-8$579$10,714-

1. Salud De Glass

2. Berken

3. Dorompa

3rd of 819/11/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 27Ken Takagi56kgFast0:50.6056.9 km/h2.5L1-2$1226$10,714$1,488

1. Momentum Gain

2. Tsumamigui

3. Tenkuno Yamajiro

5th of 724/10/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 24Tatsuya Watanabe56kgFast0:50.3057.3 km/h9.0L4-4$30135$10,762-

1. Ore Osu

2. Yomii

3. Sifar

135 Day Spell
4Yuya Goto
  • Yellow Garden (4) 9957344277
  • Trainer: Yuya Goto(KASAMATSU)
  • Jockey: Manato Kurosawa
  • Weight: 55kg
  • Prize Money: $6,340
  • Win / Place: 0% / 14%

3 yo Chestnut Filly

Sire: CALIFORNIA CHROME (USA)

Dam: COSMO PURPLE (JPN)

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Rating

Stats
Career
14: 0-1-1
Distance
5: 0-1-1
Trk/Dst
5: 0-1-1
Track
6: 0-1-1
Season
2: 0-0-0
1st Up
1: 0-0-0
2nd Up
1: 0-0-0
3rd Up
1: 0-0-0
4th Up
1: 0-0-0
Non-Metro
14: 0-1-1
Dirt
14: 0-1-1
Firm
9: 0-0-1
Clockwise
14: 0-1-1
Jockey Stats
Horse
3: 0-1-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

800m - 1400m

Comments
Most recently second last of 8 at this track on January 21 over 800m, 8 len behind Montpellier with 55kg at $96.70. The race before that second last of 8 at this track on January 9 over 1400m, 15 len behind Berken with 55kg at $56.20. Should be right in the finish.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
7th of 821/1/26Kasamatsu800mCOND 36Myojo Haru Dai55kgFast0:50.1057.5 km/h8.7L6-6$9712$7,736-

1. Montpellier

2. Gekishin

3. Usagichan

7th of 89/1/26Kasamatsu1400mCOND 37Manato Kurosawa55kgFast1:32.7054.4 km/h15.2L6-7$5611$9,456-

1. Berken

2. Super Party

3. Tsumamigui

2nd of 729/12/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 24Manato Kurosawa55kgGood1:33.9053.7 km/h1.5L6-1$1.70f13$10,584$2,352

1. Okano Storm

2. Yellow Garden

3. Morning Ajisai

4th of 716/12/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 25Manato Kurosawa55kgGood1:32.5054.5 km/h4.1L6-3$1318$10,584$882

1. Vermeil Doll

2. Bellagio Jupiter

3. Super Party

4th of 928/11/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 27Soichi Kato55kgFast1:32.1054.7 km/h7.0L4-4$169$10,714$893

1. Salud De Glass

2. Berken

3. Dorompa

3rd of 819/11/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 23Tsutsui Yusuke55kgFast1:32.5054.5 km/h1.5L4-5$8.4022$10,714$1,488

1. A Shin Diva

2. Rose Impulse

3. Yellow Garden

5Yoichi Kurimoto
  • Castagnaccio (5) 35258
  • Trainer: Yoichi Kurimoto()
  • Jockey: Ken Takagi
  • Weight: 57kg
  • Prize Money: $6,568
  • Win / Place: 0% / 40%

3 yo Chestnut Colt

Sire: MATERA SKY (USA)

Dam: DAMGALNUNA (JPN)

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Rating

Stats
Career
5: 0-1-1
Distance
2: 0-0-0
Trk/Dst
2: 0-0-0
Track
5: 0-1-1
Season
1: 0-0-0
1st Up
1: 0-0-1
2nd Up
1: 0-0-0
3rd Up
1: 0-1-0
4th Up
1: 0-0-0
Non-Metro
5: 0-1-1
Dirt
5: 0-1-1
Firm
3: 0-0-1
Clockwise
5: 0-1-1
Jockey Stats
Horse
1: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

800m - 1400m

Comments
Most recently raced behind the speed prior to fading to run last of 8 at this track on January 21 over 800m, 11 len behind Montpellier carrying 57kg at $12. The run before that 5th of 8 at this track on December 29 over 1400m, 15 len behind Dorompa with 56kg at $5.30. Expect improvement on recent effort.

Expected Settling Position: Leader

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
8th of 821/1/26Kasamatsu800mCOND 35Ken Takagi57kgFast0:50.1057.5 km/h11.2L3-2$1223$7,736-

1. Montpellier

2. Gekishin

3. Usagichan

5th of 829/12/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 22Hosokawa Satoshi56kgGood1:33.7053.8 km/h15.0L3-5$5.3013$10,584-

1. Dorompa

2. Milliondollar Babe

3. Yozakura Blues

2nd of 616/12/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 23Hosokawa Satoshi56kgGood0:50.2057.4 km/h3.0L1-1$1.40f18$10,584$2,352

1. Tsumamigui

2. Castagnaccio

3. Bukittinggi

5th of 928/11/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 29Hosokawa Satoshi56kgFast1:32.1054.7 km/h9.0L1-2$1222$10,714-

1. Salud De Glass

2. Berken

3. Dorompa

3rd of 66/11/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 23Tatsuya Watanabe56kgFast0:50.1057.5 km/h3.5L3-3$3.70-$30,357$4,216

1. Rock My Soul

2. Momentum Gain

3. Castagnaccio

6Masayoshi Goto
  • Princess Likka (6) 59650
  • Trainer: Masayoshi Goto()
  • Jockey: Mikio Fujiwara
  • Weight: 55kg
  • Prize Money: $0
  • Win / Place: 0% / 0%

3 yo Chestnut Filly

Sire: ALL BLUSH (JPN)

Dam: AVVENENTE (JPN)

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Rating

Stats
Career
5: 0-0-0
Distance
3: 0-0-0
Trk/Dst
3: 0-0-0
Track
5: 0-0-0
Season
2: 0-0-0
1st Up
1: 0-0-0
2nd Up
1: 0-0-0
3rd Up
1: 0-0-0
4th Up
1: 0-0-0
Non-Metro
5: 0-0-0
Dirt
5: 0-0-0
Firm
3: 0-0-0
Clockwise
5: 0-0-0
Jockey Stats
Horse
5: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

800m - 1400m

Comments
Last start ran last of 10 at this track on January 23 over 1400m, 19 len behind Yamajun Young with 55kg at $38.40. The run before that 5th of 8 at this track on January 9 over 800m, 5 len behind Usagichan with 55kg at $95.90. Can do a lot better than that last run.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
10th of 1023/1/26Kasamatsu1400mCOND 39Mikio Fujiwara55kgGood1:35.0053.1 km/h19.1L2-6$3814$7,736-

1. Yamajun Young

2. Dan Stone Cheers

3. Go Go Summer

5th of 89/1/26Kasamatsu800mCOND 33Mikio Fujiwara55kgFast0:51.1056.4 km/h4.8L5-5$9611$7,736-

1. Usagichan

2. Bukittinggi

3. Maple Glory

6th of 829/12/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 27Mikio Fujiwara55kgGood1:33.7053.8 km/h15.5L6-4$14931$10,584-

1. Dorompa

2. Milliondollar Babe

3. Yozakura Blues

31 Day Freshen-Up
9th of 1028/11/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 24Mikio Fujiwara55kgFast1:31.2055.3 km/h48.3L10-10$7722$10,714-

1. Ken Bridge Los

2. Vermeil Doll

3. Sempreverde

5th of 66/11/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 22Mikio Fujiwara55kgFast0:50.1057.5 km/h11.0L6-5$17-$30,357-

1. Rock My Soul

2. Momentum Gain

3. Castagnaccio

7Yoshinaga Ohashi
  • Yozakura Blues (7) 765367
  • Trainer: Yoshinaga Ohashi()
  • Jockey: Shin Higashikawa
  • Weight: 55kg
  • Prize Money: $1,470
  • Win / Place: 0% / 16%

3 yo Bay Filly

Sire: SATONO GENESIS (JPN)

Dam: TUDOR ROSE (JPN)

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Rating

Stats
Career
6: 0-0-1
Distance
3: 0-0-1
Trk/Dst
3: 0-0-1
Track
6: 0-0-1
Season
2: 0-0-0
1st Up
1: 0-0-0
2nd Up
1: 0-0-0
3rd Up
1: 0-0-0
4th Up
1: 0-0-1
Non-Metro
6: 0-0-1
Dirt
6: 0-0-1
Firm
3: 0-0-0
Clockwise
6: 0-0-1
Jockey Stats
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

800m - 1400m

Comments
At the latest run got back early 7th of 10 at this track on January 23 over 1400m, 9 len behind Yamajun Young with 55kg at $23.60. The run before that 6th of 8 at this track on January 9 over 800m, 9 len behind Usagichan carrying 55kg at $22.70. Can atone for a modest effort last time.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
7th of 1023/1/26Kasamatsu1400mCOND 35Tsutsui Yusuke55kgGood1:35.0053.1 km/h9.6L9-8$2414$7,736-

1. Yamajun Young

2. Dan Stone Cheers

3. Go Go Summer

6th of 89/1/26Kasamatsu800mCOND 34Seigo Tsukamoto55kgFast0:51.1056.4 km/h9.8L7-6$2311$7,736-

1. Usagichan

2. Bukittinggi

3. Maple Glory

3rd of 829/12/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 28Junki Mochizuki55kgGood1:33.7053.8 km/h9.5L4-2$6213$10,584$1,470

1. Dorompa

2. Milliondollar Babe

3. Yozakura Blues

5th of 616/12/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 24Tsutsui Yusuke55kgGood0:50.2057.4 km/h12.0L5-5$6218$10,584-

1. Tsumamigui

2. Castagnaccio

3. Bukittinggi

6th of 1028/11/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 27Myojo Haru Dai55kgFast1:31.2055.3 km/h37.8L7-9$989$10,714-

1. Ken Bridge Los

2. Vermeil Doll

3. Sempreverde

7th of 819/11/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 24Tsutsui Yusuke55kgFast0:50.6056.9 km/h9.5L5-6$10-$10,714-

1. Momentum Gain

2. Tsumamigui

3. Tenkuno Yamajiro

8Yuya Goto
  • Bellagio No Yume (8) 6x5335675
  • Trainer: Yuya Goto(KASAMATSU)
  • Jockey: Yuuki Iguchi
  • Weight: 52kg
  • Prize Money: $3,049
  • Win / Place: 0% / 25%

3 yo Chestnut Filly

Sire: QUITE FINE (JPN)

Dam: BATTLE KU (JPN)

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Rating

Stats
Career
8: 0-0-2
Distance
4: 0-0-2
Trk/Dst
4: 0-0-2
Track
8: 0-0-2
Season
1: 0-0-0
1st Up
2: 0-0-0
2nd Up
1: 0-0-1
3rd Up
1: 0-0-1
4th Up
1: 0-0-0
Non-Metro
8: 0-0-2
Dirt
8: 0-0-2
Firm
4: 0-0-2
Clockwise
8: 0-0-2
Jockey Stats
Horse
3: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

800m - 1400m

Comments
At the latest run 5th of 10 at this track on January 23 over 1400m, 4.5 len behind Yamajun Young with 55kg at $20.20. The start before that second last of 8 at this track on December 29 over 1400m, 18 len behind Dorompa carrying 52kg at $39.50. Well placed to take this out.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
5th of 1023/1/26Kasamatsu1400mCOND 36Seigo Tsukamoto55kgGood1:35.0053.1 km/h4.6L8-3$2025$7,736-

1. Yamajun Young

2. Dan Stone Cheers

3. Go Go Summer

7th of 829/12/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 23Iguchi Yuki52kgGood1:33.7053.8 km/h18.5L8-8$4013$10,584-

1. Dorompa

2. Milliondollar Babe

3. Yozakura Blues

6th of 616/12/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 21Iguchi Yuki52kgGood0:50.2057.4 km/h15.0L6-6$2527$10,584-

1. Tsumamigui

2. Castagnaccio

3. Bukittinggi

5th of 819/11/25Kasamatsu800mCOND 28Iguchi Yuki52kgFast0:50.6056.9 km/h6.5L6-5$1315$10,714-

1. Momentum Gain

2. Tsumamigui

3. Tenkuno Yamajiro

3rd of 74/11/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 27Seigo Tsukamoto55kgFast1:33.9053.7 km/h5.8L2-3$4.3028$10,714$1,488

1. American Vicky

2. Katsuno Appare

3. Bellagio No Yume

3rd of 57/10/25Kasamatsu1400mCOND 22Myojo Haru Dai54kgFast1:36.8052.1 km/h3.3L5-3$4.4011$11,239$1,561

1. Marxist

2. Usagichan

3. Bellagio No Yume

Race Review Abbreviations

3WNC: Three wide no cover, Awk: Awkwardly away, Bk: Back, Blkd: Blocked, Btld: Battled, Chal: Challenged, Chkd: Checked, Cvr: Cover, Fdd: Faded, Fght: Fought, Fin: Finish, Hdd: Headed, Hld up: Held up, Hmprd: Hampered, Hndy: Handy, Kikd: Kicked, Kn: Keen, Ld: Led/Lead, Midf: Midfield, Mod pc: Moderate pace, Otf: On the Fence, ROS: Ran on strongly, Slow: Slow away, Snagd: Snagged, Stld: Settled, Tn: Turn, Trld: Trailed, Under pres: Under pressure, Under rd: Under riding, Urgd: Urged, Wd: Wide, Wdr: Wider, Weavd: Weaved, Wknd: Weakened, Wrkd: Worked

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